The Romani Hindu Faith/Dharma, Culture & History

Explaining Roma Monotheism as a Dharmic Tradition, Not Evidence of Non-Indic Origins Some of the Roma believe that their ancestors, both in India and after migrating to Europe, were strictly monotheistic, worshipping only Devel/Devla/Del as a single God, and interpret this as evidence of origins outside the Indian subcontinent, perhaps tied to Israelite (as influenced by the Christianity within the host countries), or other non-Indic cultures. However, this belief in one God aligns perfectly with the spiritual traditions of the Indian Subcontinent, particularly within Hinduism and broader Dharmic frameworks. Here’s how Devla reflects the Indic concepts of Param Brahman and the worship of a chosen deity, not a non-Indic monotheism. 1. Understanding Devel in Roma Belief Romani View: Devel is seen as the supreme, formless God, eternal and all-pervading, often described as beyond human understanding. For many Roma, other figures like Devloro (Little God, linked to Jesus nowadays) or Sara l...

Introduction   As I am arguing with people, especially among the Roma who strongly believe the beliefs which were taught to them by the Non-Roma, I must make this post, yet further reflecting current Romani beliefs within Christianity and compare them yet more with the Dharmic beliefs. These contemporary beliefs are based on real-life experiences, Paramisa (tale stories) and yet more, as well I will provide you with the beliefs of the Church (Catholic in particular, as I am from a country with Catholic majority - if you don't count "Somethingists", Believers without organisation and hard-die Atheists). Jesus Christ & Christian Teachings + logic behind my claim In one group on the Social Platform - Facebook I stated that " Jesus died 2000 years ago ", which is true, if we follow Christian Christologist theological doctrine; Hypostatic Union (which is about the dual nature of Jesus Christ), i.e. Jesus Christ being both fully human and fully divine. In Christi...

ROMA OLD BELIEFS (more detailed + what I found in recent times from among the narrations of the elders) DEVEL/DEVLA/DEL/DEVL/DEIL This word simply means "God". But Romani views of this entity were originally (and partly still are) same like of the Param Brahman, also called Nirguna Brahman, i.e. entity which is beyond all descriptions and conceptualisations, it is described as a formlessness that eternally pervades everything, everywhere in the universe and what is beyond, and is unchangeable. Closest Christian approximation to this concept are the Father or yet better the Holy Ghost, but it seems that the Roma never understood the difference between the Father and the Holy Ghost, which simply shows that it was beyond Romani concepts and that we were Christianised. But also this word may be used for any personalised God, as we back in the Indian Subcontinent either followed only one sect within Dharma or simply over time came simplification with losing concepts (also some of ...

Sara la Kali = Sharika Devi = incarnation of goddess Durga in Kashmir In France there is Sara la Kali (probably Christianised Kashmiri version of goddess Sharika Devi = Durga), Catholic Church made her a saint. The believers go into the sea and immerse there every year to get rid of their sins and bad deeds in the sea, which becomes holy because they bring there the statue of Sara la Kali. Note: It´s possible that Sara Kali = goddess Kali _ Old Prayer ways of the Roma & Sinti (Based on historical accounts from whole Europe, especially northern) Prayer to Devla (Hindu Param Brahman = Absolute Reality) was taken as private conversation between the believer with Devla and it still somewhat exists till nowadays. Prayer to the Sun (Kham or Khamoro) was very common among the Roma in Russia, Ukraine and Moldova and consisted of calls to the Sun, asking something from the Sun and bowing to the Sun. Prayer to the Tree (very similar to India's Dharkar tribe's way), the person which i...

Is there only one God or more gods in the Romani Faith? And who is the God of the Romani People?   In Romani language we have various dialects and sub-dialects. We call God Devla Del Devel Debel Devl Dol Dél Dejl Džejl Devloro Mostly we have Devla or Del In some dialects also exist a word for Goddess Devľi Devleisa Develkija In other Indic (Indo-Aryan) languages God is Dev or Deva and Goddes is Devi or Debi. In Dravidian language Malayalam is God Daivam (m with bindu over is almost not heard), Goddess is Devataviya. If we call on God in the Romani language "Oh God!" we say "Devlale!" in many dialects, this seems to be plural and in fact it should be "oh Gods!", same as we use in "Romale" (Oh Roma people) or in "Čhavale" (oh boys). In Indic (Indo-Aryan) language Bengali is plural - "Debata" (gods). In Dravidian Malayalam language it´s "Daivannale", -le is used for plural in this language. Why does Romani uses plural i...